Curse

Numa Pompilius · Mar 10, 2008, 10:45 PM // 22:45

Yes, I know that Tombs has been H/H'd before using bonder hero, but I always felt that was cheesy, so I wanted to do it the right way: straight up.

I assembled a team with a hybrid monk, a flashbot ele, a curse necro and I myself a warrior with You Move Like A Dwarf as most important spell. Zaishen healers, a zaishen mage and a zaishen archer. Tactic: I scout ahead and attract aggro, the H/H's kill them. If anything needs to be interrupted I interrupt.

It worked well. I pretty quickly got to Halls, and...

A little pulling and tanking later:

And to the victor, the plentiful spoils:

Yay. All that and I got a white non-max raven staff.

Well, it's done; I doubt I'll do it again any time soon.

jonnieboi05 · Mar 10, 2008, 10:54 PM // 22:54

grats on the raven staff?

Numa Pompilius · Mar 10, 2008, 11:00 PM // 23:00

Yeah, I'm really stoked about it.

Buddhaofwar · Mar 10, 2008, 11:03 PM // 23:03

omg, like,what mods are you gonna put on it?

and did you at least get an ecto?

Miska Bow · Mar 10, 2008, 11:05 PM // 23:05

Dont want to rub it in but, my fist time completing it, the 2 end boss dropped me 1 green each.

[Morkai] · Mar 10, 2008, 11:15 PM // 23:15

Nice one. Grats on the Balanced run at it. Real good job

I suggest you beat your heroes until they give you the drops they stole

Richardt · Mar 11, 2008, 01:20 AM // 01:20

How many ectos for that raven staff? Cause that is like seriously sweet

Anywhoo.....grats on completing.

bolomax · Mar 11, 2008, 09:49 AM // 09:49

At least it was fun

All the greens for heroes

masta_yoda · Mar 11, 2008, 10:23 AM // 10:23

how long exactly did it take you, might try if below 2 hours

Numa Pompilius · Mar 11, 2008, 01:06 PM // 13:06

Two hours sounds about right. It's hard to tell because I went AFK for dinner and to watch TV and then resumed.

The only real problem is avoiding having the Grasps kill your squishies. I scouted ahead and drew aggro/triggered popups, then retreated so my H/H's were just outside my aggro bubble. They'd then run in and heal me and attack the mobs, without getting attacked themselves. Also when I saw a grasp trying to get past I'd cripple it with YMLaD!. A couple of times grasps got past me, but the flashbot ele took care of them.

Wrt Chaos Wurms I'd park the H/H's in a safe location but as close to the wurm as possible, then run in and trigger the popups, then pull the popups and kill them. Only when there were no more nasty surprises would I run in and kill the wurms.

Target terrorwebs first, at least until you've interrupted or made them waste their meteor shower. H/H's don't have the brains to move out of the AoE and a meteor shower can wipe the team.

Other than that it was just a case of being thorough, pulling, and avoiding surprise popups. The only times I got killed was when I was trying to pull and a Grasp crippled me while I was far from the henches. But that's what the hero with rebirth is for.

Consumables: I used a candy cane when I had been careless while pulling and accumulated 39% dp.

And no, I didn't get any ecto or any other worthwhile drop. A purple shield which I merched for the princely sum of 130 gold was the best drop.

Abedeus · Mar 11, 2008, 01:58 PM // 13:58

You can also H/H it with 1 minion master (MoM, Olias or Livia), 1 SF and one Splinter Weapon/Barrage or order necro + you as R/Rt splinter (of course rangers use pets - more tanks is better) + monk and ele henches.

Oh, and Minion Master has Barbs and Mark of Pain. Barbs + wurm, MoP + bosses/a lot of mobs.

Numa Pompilius · Mar 11, 2008, 03:37 PM // 15:37

Yeah, I know people are using that, but I couldn't get the R/Rt splinter-barrage-pet build to work. I got as far as the Courtyard with it, but sooner or later grasps would kill or interrupt the MM and then it all went south. Also the minions had a tendency to attract adds.

I think what made the biggest difference was the blindbot; he kept the Grasps from killing the backline.

Abedeus · Mar 11, 2008, 05:11 PM // 17:11

Because you have to lure mobs on the minions using a flatbow, while rest of your team stands behind and heals you/necro until aggro is set.

But I already cleared Tombs twice with my build. It's just not that good - 2,5 hours for crappy greens...

FoxBat · Mar 11, 2008, 05:29 PM // 17:29

Clearing Tombs with all Henchies and no flags back in the day, now that was an accomplishment.

Numa Pompilius · Mar 11, 2008, 08:38 PM // 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxBat

Clearing Tombs with all Henchies and no flags back in the day, now that was an accomplishment.

Oh definitely, massive respect to all those who managed that.

Sakura Az · Mar 12, 2008, 12:47 AM // 00:47

cleared tombs the first time with my sin and a h/h party, took HB monk, MM bomber, channel/resto rit, 2 ele hench, 1 monk hench ranger hench.. yesh few iffy moments later and an hour and a half i finished it for the first time ever, 10 mins late i was back in there on my ranger with a B/P group.

tox_169 · Mar 12, 2008, 02:02 AM // 02:02

Grats on the accomplishment!

I did it too almost a year ago on my paragon, with 2 b/p heroes and MM, then 2 monks and 2 fire ele henchies. It was JoeKnowMo's team build.

VitisVinifera · Mar 12, 2008, 05:12 AM // 05:12

One thing I've always wanted to do was do this h&h, but me with some build that could solo the darknesses and get all their drops. Probably echo shadow form sin, but with all the changes to the related skills since I used to 2 man this, I have no idea what the precise build is now.

Anyways, I'd bet the sab minion bomber + n/rt healer would be great there.

bungusmaximus · Mar 13, 2008, 02:03 PM // 14:03

Cool, I h/h tombs all the time with a guildmate in HM. The pugs there are really beyond stupid and I like playing there. Actually most of my heroes are equipped with tomb greens, o it served its purpose pretty well. I use an SS/MoP necro, some rangers, a 'stand your ground' para and 2 N/Rt healers.

Numa Pompilius · Mar 13, 2008, 03:10 PM // 15:10

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

I h/h tombs all the time with a guildmate in HM.

Everything is easy with six heroes and two humans.